Sometimes you don’t find your true passion until you walk away from the corporate world and start your own business and that is what our guest Tony Gowland did. He’s had a fruitful career working for companies such as Rockstar and Activision and then founded Ant Workshop, an indie studio that is set to release their game, Binaries.

We talk with Tony about his time working on AAA titles like GTA: Chinatown Wars and Red Dead Redemption and his move to creating his own studio and about his latest game, Binaries, a unique look at the PC puzzle platformer.

Check out Binaries on Steam – http://store.steampowered.com/app/435800/